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		<title>By: John Rankin</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Rankin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 16:55:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What would Jesus do concerning homosexuality? What did He say? Look at the old testament. Who gave the moral law to Israel? It was the pre-incarnate Christ. He made it very clear that a man should not lay with a man as he would a woman. Also condemned cross dressing. Did Jesus speak to this in His earthly ministry? Yes! First, He declared &quot;For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth pass away, not one letter, not one stroke of a letter, will pass from the law until all is accomplished.&quot; 
 
Now there are many sins Jesus did not address in the gospels. Does not mean He did not deal with them, they just were not recorded. You cannot preclude any part of the moral/spiritual law of God based on whether it was included in the verbal text attributed to Jesus. The priority with Jesus is to save the lost, and we, as believers are called to be salt and light. 
 
To ignore a political movement that pushes what God has called &quot;detestable&quot; and an &quot;abomination&quot; is to hide your light under a basket, and your salt to be worth nothing more than to be tread underfoot. If the church, the body of Christ, does not deal with this issue, then how far will it go? 
 
If there were parades dedicated to adultery, or murder, or stealing from the blind, would you take a stand? Why does sodomy get a pass? Christ did not &quot;poo poo&quot; sin, He died to remove the condemnation of those who receive Him, and give them eternal life.  
 
God drew the line, through Moses, in order to convict people of sin and the need for repentance and forgiveness. Jesus came to fulfill the law, and offer the forgiveness necessary to reconcile us to God. So now, are we to determine that since Jesus was not vocal enough in the gospels about one particular sin, one that is politically being forced upon us as &quot;normal, acceptable and something to aspire to&quot; that we should be silent also? Far be it! Thank God that Paul did not use the same barometer in dealing with this sin. Read Romans 1:18-32.  
 
Remember, what you condone, you own. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What would Jesus do concerning homosexuality? What did He say? Look at the old testament. Who gave the moral law to Israel? It was the pre-incarnate Christ. He made it very clear that a man should not lay with a man as he would a woman. Also condemned cross dressing. Did Jesus speak to this in His earthly ministry? Yes! First, He declared &quot;For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth pass away, not one letter, not one stroke of a letter, will pass from the law until all is accomplished.&quot; </p>
<p>Now there are many sins Jesus did not address in the gospels. Does not mean He did not deal with them, they just were not recorded. You cannot preclude any part of the moral/spiritual law of God based on whether it was included in the verbal text attributed to Jesus. The priority with Jesus is to save the lost, and we, as believers are called to be salt and light. </p>
<p>To ignore a political movement that pushes what God has called &quot;detestable&quot; and an &quot;abomination&quot; is to hide your light under a basket, and your salt to be worth nothing more than to be tread underfoot. If the church, the body of Christ, does not deal with this issue, then how far will it go? </p>
<p>If there were parades dedicated to adultery, or murder, or stealing from the blind, would you take a stand? Why does sodomy get a pass? Christ did not &quot;poo poo&quot; sin, He died to remove the condemnation of those who receive Him, and give them eternal life.  </p>
<p>God drew the line, through Moses, in order to convict people of sin and the need for repentance and forgiveness. Jesus came to fulfill the law, and offer the forgiveness necessary to reconcile us to God. So now, are we to determine that since Jesus was not vocal enough in the gospels about one particular sin, one that is politically being forced upon us as &quot;normal, acceptable and something to aspire to&quot; that we should be silent also? Far be it! Thank God that Paul did not use the same barometer in dealing with this sin. Read Romans 1:18-32.  </p>
<p>Remember, what you condone, you own.</p>
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		<title>By: My Blog - 2009 in Review &#124; It's Complicated</title>
		<link>http://www.garymo.com/2009/06/gay-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-1491</link>
		<dc:creator>My Blog - 2009 in Review &#124; It's Complicated</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:17:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Most Controversial Post - The Gay Marriage debate was huge in California during 2009.¬† I posted two questions for Christians to ask themselves.¬† Not only did people respond on my blogsite; they found my phone number, called me, and discussed the finer points with me. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Most Controversial Post &#8211; The Gay Marriage debate was huge in California during 2009.¬† I posted two questions for Christians to ask themselves.¬† Not only did people respond on my blogsite; they found my phone number, called me, and discussed the finer points with me. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: KPlatt</title>
		<link>http://www.garymo.com/2009/06/gay-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-1471</link>
		<dc:creator>KPlatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 06:58:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have come a long way since I sat at your parent&#039;s dinner table as a teenager and you all probed whether I had a clue that my pastor&#039;s son had ultimately died of aids, first in Fresno, I believe.  Didn&#039;t feel much compassion that night as I pretended not to know out of respect for him. Glad to see perhaps now maybe it would have been handled differently.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have come a long way since I sat at your parent&#8217;s dinner table as a teenager and you all probed whether I had a clue that my pastor&#8217;s son had ultimately died of aids, first in Fresno, I believe.  Didn&#8217;t feel much compassion that night as I pretended not to know out of respect for him. Glad to see perhaps now maybe it would have been handled differently.</p>
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		<title>By: Kim Quinn</title>
		<link>http://www.garymo.com/2009/06/gay-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-1338</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim Quinn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 21:31:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe Jesus also took on the Pharsees and the Saducees who were both political and religious leaders.  The fact is the gay rights lobby forsed this debate not the religious right.  They have decided that the will of the voters and the majority of Californians doesn&#039;t count and they will have their way.   

So while I don&#039;t think whatever happens in the gay marriage debate will stop homosexuality I do believe we need to support moral laws.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe Jesus also took on the Pharsees and the Saducees who were both political and religious leaders.  The fact is the gay rights lobby forsed this debate not the religious right.  They have decided that the will of the voters and the majority of Californians doesn&#8217;t count and they will have their way.   </p>
<p>So while I don&#8217;t think whatever happens in the gay marriage debate will stop homosexuality I do believe we need to support moral laws.</p>
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		<title>By: Linda Wooten</title>
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		<dc:creator>Linda Wooten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 13:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Gary for this blog.  I wish everyone could read it.  In this time when people are in fighting and killing in the name of &quot;peace&quot; and &quot;being right&quot;, it is so sad that people are putting so much time and energy into the subject of gay marriage.  No matter what your opinion is on this subject, they really aren&#039;t hurting anybody and we have so many more social justice issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Gary for this blog.  I wish everyone could read it.  In this time when people are in fighting and killing in the name of &#8220;peace&#8221; and &#8220;being right&#8221;, it is so sad that people are putting so much time and energy into the subject of gay marriage.  No matter what your opinion is on this subject, they really aren&#8217;t hurting anybody and we have so many more social justice issues.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 18:24:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great question, Victoria.  My answer to your question is &quot;Absolutely not!&quot;.  My greatest hope and prayer is that we&#039;ll all decide where to jump in, and what exact battle to fight.  There are so many, and passivity is most certainly never an option.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great question, Victoria.  My answer to your question is &#8220;Absolutely not!&#8221;.  My greatest hope and prayer is that we&#8217;ll all decide where to jump in, and what exact battle to fight.  There are so many, and passivity is most certainly never an option.</p>
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		<title>By: victoria jackson</title>
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		<dc:creator>victoria jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 18:09:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is a Christian supposed to sit at home and watch their country turn from a praying-in-school nation to a teaching-sodomy -in- kindergarten nation and do nothing?  From a 10 Commandments nation to a &quot;celebrate sodomy in June&quot; nation?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is a Christian supposed to sit at home and watch their country turn from a praying-in-school nation to a teaching-sodomy -in- kindergarten nation and do nothing?  From a 10 Commandments nation to a &#8220;celebrate sodomy in June&#8221; nation?</p>
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		<title>By: Lexie Fabbian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lexie Fabbian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 17:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>found this online after I read through this post. I thought it was pretty funny and fitting. 
http://buttersafe.com/2009/06/04/watching-your-stuff-burn/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>found this online after I read through this post. I thought it was pretty funny and fitting.<br />
<a href="http://buttersafe.com/2009/06/04/watching-your-stuff-burn/" rel="nofollow">http://buttersafe.com/2009/06/04/watching-your-stuff-burn/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Duke</title>
		<link>http://www.garymo.com/2009/06/gay-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-1319</link>
		<dc:creator>Duke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 16:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I do admire the courage, honesty, and sincere thought put into this, I do wonder a few things.

1. Is it true that every culture encourages questioning except Americans? I personally find that a lot of cultures refuse to ask many questions themselves. Hence many of them are seen as &quot;backwards&quot;. In many Arab countries, they are not taught critical thinking skills. King Abdullah of Jordan remarked how the American system was so different in that it DID encourage him to think more critically. 

It&#039;s a tough statement because within America, there are so many kinds of factions. Perhaps the more fundamentalist views have a stronger voice because of their media power, but that doesn&#039;t mean we as a whole aren&#039;t encouraged to ask hard questions. 

But then again, most people are pretty dumb anyway.

2. What was Jesus here on Earth for? Ultimately, he was to fulfill the law, bridge the gap between God and fallen humanity, and establish God&#039;s kingdom on Earth. 

The things we ought to live should be kingdom-centered things. This includes restoring the brokeness of humanity, i.e., social justice, preaching the Gospel. All the things Jesus did. 

Now he may have not necessarily talked about homosexuality directly, but he did often talk about marriage in many ways. In short, what would marriage look like according to God&#039;s kingdom? (Even though there isn&#039;t going to be &quot;marriage&quot; in heaven, per se.)

I think you&#039;re right to question the priority of fighting for gay/traditional marriage, but the fact the there are people (all kinds) fighting for whatever side, does show that people do care about it. A lot. 

So to tell a Christian not to focus so much on it, well, it should be fair to tell a gay rights activist to not focus so much on it, either.

My problem is the contentiousness and everyone thinking they&#039;re so right on whatever issue. It&#039;s the divisive language. Which is why I do applaud your much more unifying way of discourse, rather than debate.

Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I do admire the courage, honesty, and sincere thought put into this, I do wonder a few things.</p>
<p>1. Is it true that every culture encourages questioning except Americans? I personally find that a lot of cultures refuse to ask many questions themselves. Hence many of them are seen as &#8220;backwards&#8221;. In many Arab countries, they are not taught critical thinking skills. King Abdullah of Jordan remarked how the American system was so different in that it DID encourage him to think more critically. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a tough statement because within America, there are so many kinds of factions. Perhaps the more fundamentalist views have a stronger voice because of their media power, but that doesn&#8217;t mean we as a whole aren&#8217;t encouraged to ask hard questions. </p>
<p>But then again, most people are pretty dumb anyway.</p>
<p>2. What was Jesus here on Earth for? Ultimately, he was to fulfill the law, bridge the gap between God and fallen humanity, and establish God&#8217;s kingdom on Earth. </p>
<p>The things we ought to live should be kingdom-centered things. This includes restoring the brokeness of humanity, i.e., social justice, preaching the Gospel. All the things Jesus did. </p>
<p>Now he may have not necessarily talked about homosexuality directly, but he did often talk about marriage in many ways. In short, what would marriage look like according to God&#8217;s kingdom? (Even though there isn&#8217;t going to be &#8220;marriage&#8221; in heaven, per se.)</p>
<p>I think you&#8217;re right to question the priority of fighting for gay/traditional marriage, but the fact the there are people (all kinds) fighting for whatever side, does show that people do care about it. A lot. </p>
<p>So to tell a Christian not to focus so much on it, well, it should be fair to tell a gay rights activist to not focus so much on it, either.</p>
<p>My problem is the contentiousness and everyone thinking they&#8217;re so right on whatever issue. It&#8217;s the divisive language. Which is why I do applaud your much more unifying way of discourse, rather than debate.</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 15:57:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Id like to echo what James R. said re: immigrants. A missionary friend of mine who does much of his work in Mexico/Central America said one of the most effective tools for (Protestant) evangelism is.. drum roll please... emigration to America. 

Here inthe US, they are out of their cultural norm, and are set free to see the truth of the Gospel. Then they bring it back through letters, visits, etc. One of these day workers at home depot may be from a remote tribe from the mountains of Guatemala, one which missionaries have unsuccessfully tried to reach. 

This does not justify Illegal immigration, but like James R said, maybe I can look at these &quot;aliens among us&quot; with different eyes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Id like to echo what James R. said re: immigrants. A missionary friend of mine who does much of his work in Mexico/Central America said one of the most effective tools for (Protestant) evangelism is.. drum roll please&#8230; emigration to America. </p>
<p>Here inthe US, they are out of their cultural norm, and are set free to see the truth of the Gospel. Then they bring it back through letters, visits, etc. One of these day workers at home depot may be from a remote tribe from the mountains of Guatemala, one which missionaries have unsuccessfully tried to reach. </p>
<p>This does not justify Illegal immigration, but like James R said, maybe I can look at these &#8220;aliens among us&#8221; with different eyes.</p>
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